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HostShould museums return objects acquired during the colonial era? With me are Amara Eze, a heritage lawyer, and Richard Hale, a former museum director. Amara, first of all, why now?
AmaraBecause the arguments that kept these objects in Western collections have largely collapsed. For decades, institutions claimed the countries of origin lacked the facilities to care for them. That was always condescending, and today it's simply untrue. And the precedent has shifted: in twenty twenty-two, for instance, Germany agreed to transfer ownership of more than a thousand Benin Bronzes to Nigeria.
RichardI don't dispute that some objects were taken in circumstances that were plainly indefensible, and those cases should be resolved. My concern is with the idea of a blanket rule. Collections were assembled over centuries, through looting, yes, but also through purchase, gift and exchange. Treating every acquisition as theft flattens a very complicated history.
AmaraNobody serious is proposing a blanket rule. We're proposing that the burden of proof should shift. At the moment, communities have to prove an object was stolen. I'd argue the museum should have to prove it was fairly acquired.
RichardThat's a more interesting argument, and frankly a harder one to resist. My worry is practical: provenance records for many objects are patchy or lost entirely. A burden museums can't meet becomes a de facto rule anyway.
AmaraThen perhaps that tells us something about how they were acquired.
HostIs there a middle way?
RichardLong-term loans, shared research, joint exhibitions. Arrangements where ownership is recognised and objects still travel.
AmaraThose can work, provided they're genuinely chosen by the countries of origin and not offered as a way of avoiding the question of ownership altogether.
